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Sheriff Joe Arpaio, I'm Not Confiscating Any Guns
Maricopa County Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio told a local radio host the federal government is “going to have problem” if they expect him to confiscate guns from private citizens.
“I took [multiple] oaths of office, and they all say I will defend the Constitution of the United States,” Arpaio told Mike Broomhead of KFYI Radio in Phoenix, Ariz. “Now if they’re going to tell the sheriff that he’s going to go around picking up guns from everybody, they’re going to have a problem. I may not enforce that federal law.”
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Broomhead pushed the man sometimes called “America’s toughest sheriff” even further, asking Arpaio if the feds passed a law banning ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, would his deputies confiscate such magazines?
“No,” Arpaio said. “My deputies, I said before, I’m going to arm all my deputies – a month ago I said before this – with automatic weapons and semi-automatic weapons. We’re going to be able to fight back. … I don’t care what they say from Washington.”
Arpaio expressed a certain camaraderie with many other sheriffs around the country who have similarly warned they will not enforce what they believe to be infringements on the citizens’ 2nd Amendment right to bear arms.
Some of the strongest language to that effect has come from Utah, where 28 of the state’s 29 elected sheriffs signed a letter to President Obama warning him not to send federal agents to start confiscating guns.
“[M]ake no mistake,” the sheriffs wrote, “as the duly-elected sheriffs of our respective counties, we will enforce the rights guaranteed to our citizens by the Constitution. No federal official will be permitted to descend upon our constituents and take from them what the Bill of Rights – in particular Amendment II – has given them.
“We, like you swore a solemn oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States,” the sheriffs concluded, “and we are prepared to trade our lives for the preservation of its traditional interpretation.”
Similarly, in New Mexico last week, 30 of the state’s 33 county sheriffs paid a visit to the state house, reminding the governor and state congressmen that a sheriff’s job is to defend the Constitution, including the 2nd Amendment.
And in Oregon, Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer penned a letter to Vice President Joe Biden warning, “I will not tolerate nor will I permit any federal incursion within the exterior boundaries of Grant County, Ore., where any type of gun-control legislation aimed at disarming law-abiding citizens is the goal or objective.
“We live in a free society,” Palmer continued, “and firearms ownership [is] the right to defend oneself from becoming a victim of a criminal act or from a far-reaching government attempting to enact laws that are unconstitutional.
“I will refuse to participate or stand idly by,” he concluded in the letter to Biden, “while the people are made into criminals due to your unconstitutional actions.”
Similar sentiments have been expressed by sheriffs in Missouri, California, Kansas, Montana and in dozens of counties in several states across the country. A growing list of now more than 90 sheriffs who have reportedly vowed to uphold the Constitution against gun-control measures is being accumulated by the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association and can be seen here
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/sheriff-joe-arpaio-im-not-confiscating-guns/#AhU95D7xryKtc8F7.99
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BRIAN LILLEY
Brian Lilley is host of Byline on Canada's Sun News Network.
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According to The Washington Post, the Obama administration is considering a “national database” of all firearms in the United States to “track the movement and sale of weapons.” If such a database comes to fruition the database will lead to confiscation.
Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.
As recently as last winter law abiding gun owners who had complied with the registry were having their rifles confiscated. In late 2011 hundreds if not thousands of people who had legally purchased the Armi Jager AP80, a .22 calibre variant of the AK47, were informed that their rifles had been deemed illegal and must be surrendered .
“You are required by law to return your firearm registration certificates, without delay, either by mail to the address shown in the top left corner of this page or in person to a peace officer or firearms officers. You have 30 days to deliver your firearms to a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer or to otherwise lawfully dispose of them,” read the letter sent by the Canadian Firearms Centre.
The reason for the need to surrender what had been legal firearms was simply cosmetic, the AP 80 looked too similar to the AK47. There were no interchangeable parts between the two rifles, the rifles used vastly different ammunition, had vastly different uses but they looked the same.
What was more worrisome was that the decision to reclassify what for years had been a legal rifle was made by a bureaucrat not by elected officials. There was no debate, no vote just a decision by a bureaucrat who felt the AP80, legally owned for decades, was too dangerous to be privately owned by Canadians.
Of course confiscation of firearms could just be the start, confiscation of homes and cars could also come to the USA.
Former Marine Joshua Boston recently wrote a scathing response to Senator Diane Feinstein’s gun control proposals saying that he would not register his guns. That could cost him everything.
Bruce Montague, a gunsmith from Dryden, Ontario faces the possibility of having his home seized for failure to register his firearms. Montague’s decision not to register was purely political, he wanted to challenge the constitutionality of the gun registry. When his constitutional challenge failed and Montague was convicted the government of Ontario moved to seize his home under its proceeds of crime legislation. They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.
If the United States follows Canada’s lead in registering all guns into a national database then the confiscation of rifles and shotguns won’t be far behind.
Brian Lilley is the host of Byline on Sun News Network
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ECOMCON
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:40pm
Check this out. In Canada there’s even more ludicrous laws involving guns. One being that the gun must be locked up in a gun safe in one part of your house, as well as the ammunition for the gun being locked up in another section of the house. Kinda like, you ask the home invader to excuse you while you go and unlock the gun and go to another section of your house to unlock your ammo. if the home invaded is very kind and understanding, he’ll wait for you to lock and load and come back to shoot his sorry ass.
Currently there’s one victim of government stupidity in Canada still undergoing massive amounts of legal hassles. His house was being fire bombed with molotov cocktails, his dogs were being slaughtered, etc, by a gang of thugs. All this was actually captured on closed circuit TV. The home owner finally was able to fire one round into the ground and two more into his trees in order to scare off the attackers. The poor man was then charged under the various laws regarding brandishing firearm, unsafe use of a firearm, and discharge of a firearm, and a few other choice laws. he was finally able to prove he was under direct fear for his life, and he was found innocent,. That took over two years in court and God knows how much money of his went up in smoke. But he’s now being charged with unlawful storage of a weapon and unlawful storage of ammunition. Why? Because the prosecutors are speculating (which is enough in Canada) that he armed and fired in too of a short a tim
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R3DBULL4DD1KT
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:57am
to the naysayers posting “it’s over…” remember that with a complacent attitude like that, Obama got 4 more years in office, with that attitude makes me think you are trying to justify being too cowardly to stand behind your DUTY as an American Male to defend Liberty from enemies, foreign or domestic…
MILITIA is ALL able-bodied men between 18 and 55 years old…when Tyranny knocks, it is your duty to defend the Constitution of the US without question, without hesitation, without recourse…if you wont do it, then get out of my country–PERIOD
These people aren’t playing a game; They are building an Empire and lazy, soft-hearted, naive people unwilling to do whats needed are just in the way–it was proven in November!
If Obama signs that Executive Order that is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution, there should be 100,000+ Militia Men knocking on the White House door ready to begin a trial for Treason…simple as that
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KARENE999
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:36am
It is not just men, there will be plenty of women lined up beside you in this fight.
VOTEJOEL
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:26am
Hitler did that before he came for the Jews. We will fight back!
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LB
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:20am
and BO will come for the infidels
DJAY110
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:22pm
So tell me this I see allot of us saying I will not comply! What good will a gun be after they make it illegal to own if your seen with it you go to jail ? If they come for them and you stand up how many neighbors will stand with you when they kill you and take your guns your neighbors will run to turn theirs in! can we get organized enough to make a difference ?????
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M24
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:25am
You Don’t Know My Neighbours
ETERNAL
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:11am
It’s the we start to kill them and their families. We are not kidding.
THINK_4_YOURSELF
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:42am
DJay….that is exactly what will happen. I’ll even predict that the government will accomplish this without firing a shot. When the IRS freezes your bank account how easy is it to operate? When the power company turns off your electric (per government orders), no way to communicate. They will drop the legal hammer on you, crush you. Your average citizen will see the “example” the government made of you and turn in their guns. The machine is too big. We have already lost, we just have not realized it yet. The media will paint you as a right wing gun nut maniac for not complying. It’s over folks, games over. As for me? Moving out of harms way. Anyone wanna buy my arsonal? I won’t need 99% of them on an island.
SEANSCYTHE
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:47am
This is how it will play out, Man held up in his home he will be labeled a “Gun Nut” “Prepper” “Survivalist” ect and that he was hording mass ammo and guns. Neighbors that don’t even know him will tell the news that he was secluded and weird. He will be killed or arrested and forced to plea insanity so as to make others afraid to own bulk ammo and weapons.
1984 to where you are made to look insane and crazy or sick in the head. You could be perfectly sane and well within your legal rights but that’s not how the news will portray you.
What really happened will be that you were seen outside your home with your AR-15 by a anti-gun person driving by and he/she reports that you are waving your gun around at children. The police show up with guns drawn and one thing leads to another. Your arrested and guns/ammo are taken as “evidence” never to be returned. The news gets involved and post your name and address and how many guns and how much ammo you have all over the tv. You are demonized and made into a tea party nut job.
GURUMEDITATION
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:46pm
Duh!
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JBCHEESEHEAD
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:55pm
Perhaps it’s now time to swap your weapon with another weapon owner, and then report both as lost.
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MY WASR10 SAYS IM FREE
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:50pm
PVC pipe, endcaps, cosmline, desicant, and plumbers glue. That’s all I have to say folks.
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GEMINIMOON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:30pm
What an utter crock! The failed government can only lie, cheat and steal so much from it’s citizens, but to even contemplate doing something of this nature is ludicrous!
The day a person walks onto my property telling me I must surrender my guns will be the day the local coroner starts working some serious overtime!!!
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COUYON64
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:36pm
Never.
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MERCHANTSAILOR
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:25pm
Damn…. Somebody came right in my house and stole my guns!!
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502_EAGLE
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:47pm
I think Aliens are stealing them. Mine disappeared right off my wall.
BURNTEYE86
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:54am
I sold mine outside of a gun show. Didn’t get the guys name but he was between 5’3″ and 6’8″ about 135 lbs to 340 lbs. Couldn’t make out the color of hair as he was wearing a cap . Eyes neither, wearing sun glasses. Yepper, sold every one of em.
THE THIRD ARCHON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:24pm
“They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.”
Maybe you shouldn’t have passed those fascist laws in your reactionary prohibitionist zeal to waste public resources fighting an futile war against chemical compounds then, eh? Really it’s not ALL your fault–it’s America’s, or I should say Nixon and Reagan mostly, for their championing this absurd and reactionary “war on drugs” (even George W. Bush’s “war on terror” was more justifiable–although of course, like the “war on drugs” it was ALSO a convenient excuse to push fascist laws). And they pressured/encouraged other American states (for the idiots in the audience, by “American states” in this context, I mean other nationstates in the Americas), but ESPECIALLY Mexico and Canada, to jump on board with the “war on drugs.” So you can’t be ENTIRELY blamed for a hysterically motivated mess OUR more demonic Presidents started.
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THE THIRD ARCHON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:13pm
“Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.”
I didn’t know private gun ownership was even LEGAL in Canada…
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ALASKABOB
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:19pm
Rifle and shotguns … hunting stuff… are legal, but boy do they get really spooked with handguns at the government level. They are truly part of the Commonwealth and attempt to maintain order as per the United Kingdom…. They banned “assault rifles” after a guy selectively murdered young women at a college… what is not commonly noted is the gunman had the men in the classroom leave… they left and NONE of them tried to prevent the murder as they passed by the gunman out of the classroom. This is not a case of guns causing a terrible crime, but an efeminate culture that permits if not promotes a helpless/hapless set of societal rules. The sheeple of Canada have followed the path of worthlessness promoted by the Left.
STEELPANTHER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:42pm
I remember in the commentry, some small part of the Robocop film was being shot in Canada, I actually think it was the parking garage sence where they shoot Robo all to hell. Guess the officals they where dealing with freaked out over the concept of a fake gun being shot.(in the ’80′s even)
WOLF73B
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:00pm
I will not comply.
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MAGYAR
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:39pm
I’m with you!
WOLF73B
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:48pm
Then re-post it. That needs to be the rallying cry: I will not comply!
THEHALFRICAN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:08pm
He should not try coming to Oklahoma to do this, we still honor the 10th amendment and it will not work out very well for his team.
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COYOTE1953
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:59pm
The problem is, if law-abiding citizens turn in their guns, only non-law-abiding citizens will have guns.
What the hell is wrong with liberals?
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FREDERICK_DOUGLASS_REPUBLICAN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:23pm
Modern liberalism is a mental disorder. Logic is not comprehended by them at all. There is no tolerance or diversity in modern liberalism. Either you agree like a bobble head doll on in the back window on a bumpy road or you are labeled a HATER, a RACIST, and (worse offense of all for a libloon) MEAN!
And don’t forget it! Ha ha ha *
SGT ROCK
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:47am
Liberals have been undermined and tricked by a communist mindset, that is what is wrong with them.
ZORO51
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:44pm
IMPEACH OBAMA he3s ANTI GUN ANTI AMERICAN ANTI US CONSTITUTION ANTI AMERICAN OIL COAL ANTI FREEDOMS.. but PRO SOCIALIZM this IS not a dictator but a president.. HE MUST RERALIZE THIS… IMPEACH N THROW OUT OBAMA NOW save america form the RAPIST of our freedoms
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JERRYOD1627
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
It’s only a matter of time. We had our last free election in 2010. 2012 was fixed through corruption and deception and the election of 2014 has already been decided by obama et al, The dems will take back both houses and rule us colmpletely. A very short time after that the constitution will be shredded and obama will proclaim himself our ruler as his muslim brother did in Egypt. I believe that more than half the American people will roll over, turn in their weapons and surrender. The remainder who resist will be slaughtered!
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UECHI
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:15pm
And exactly why will the 50% that resist be be killed? We have been in Iraq and Afghanistan for over 10 years. Have we won?. Did we win in Vietnam? The reality is that confiscation will lead to a war they can’t win even if it takes a century they will lose.
SWALKER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
People keep speaking as if the 2ed amendment were a right, it is not a right nor are any other of the first ten amendments. They are a declaration that the Federal and State government can NOT infringe nor restrict any of our liberty’s declared in these ten amendments. It is a declaration that the People hold these to themselves and will never relinquish them to the Government, That is not negotiable. It is fact and that is why the Government wants to restrict them. Once we hand over any part of them we loose our ability to keep them to ourselves.
Never give an inch on these Liberties that the Government was notified they have no rule or control of.
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GUITAR MASTER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:25pm
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If they could jam Obamacare through the Congress and then through the Supreme Court a gun ban with registration will be an absolute cinch. This won’t play out very well in the end. Evil incarnate.
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BLASBERRYSTRAT
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:14pm
While I am by no means “glad” I had a recent heart attack and open heart surgery, it did result in my having to sell off most that I own because of no health insurance and prescriptions not being cheap for a heart patient. Kinda funny how a Pharmacy can sell ADD, Psycho, and pain meds under a $4.00 prescription plan, but pills to keep your heart going….”forget about it”. The weird part is all I did was mention to one Body Shop that I had my boat and guns for sale, and had people knocking on my door that night. It took over two weeks to sell the boat, but about 5 hours and all my guns & ammo was gone. ALL FOR MY ASKING PRICE. I sure as heck wasn’t going to ask for names and addresses when a guy was standing in front of me with a wad of $20′s. But I am glad they’re gone simply because I’m so tired of trying to fight for freedoms that were taken away the first pull of the CT trigger. I do hand it to the Libs though. They certainly paid off a lot of people to kill citizens, then finally figured out that 5 year old’s was the “winning case”.
I’m just glad to be out of it and now don’t have any “bad guns” for neighbors (and father) to brow beat me over. The only crap part is that the money I got will only get my prescriptions until the end of March, then it’s on to selling all my guitars I guess. Love that Obamacare when I’m a White Male = NO help or coverage. If I would have been a “single mother”, I might still have my guns = Free Gov. ride.
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KUMO
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:30am
It is frustrating to say the least that a system that was designed to help folks in your predicament has been abused for so long by able bodied individuals, that when folks really need the help it is not available to them. I would not depend on the Government for anything anymore.
Are you able to contact your church or perhaps a charity for assistance?
It is really unfortunate that this happened to you brother and I hope and will pray that you are able to regain your health quickly, but perhaps this is a sign that might lead you on a new path to do great things.
JESSIEH
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:54pm
Hide what you can, lock and load what you have.
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SEMPER4EVERSEMPER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:45pm
Remember once guns are outlawed, only police, military, criminals and Hollywood bad movie actors and their supporting elitist body gurards will have guns.
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INDYGUY
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:58am
This is where America is headed if Americans don’t refuse to register weapons…Confiscation is the goal…
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MOOSEBERRYINN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:50am
This sort of registration was in force in the earlier days of Stalin’s Russia. The important thing to remember is it does nothing to prevent criminal activity.
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JEFFERSONIAN1776
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:41am
Remember that when the leftist loons try to throw the old “what don’t you understand about ‘well-regulated’” at you, that the term ‘well-regulated’ meant during the latter 18th century–’well-trained.’ In fact, the 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution would be hypocritical if it was saying that guns should be well-regulated by the state and then right in the same sentence saying that it is to “not be infringed.” When the Anti-Federalists like George Mason and Thomas Jefferson wanted all Natural Rights to be in writing–hence the Bill of Rights–they wanted the 2nd Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms to be protected in the Constitution and used the term “well-regulated” (i.e., “well-trained”) as something to not be infringed by gov’t. In other words, they didn’t want the gov’t to be able to take one’s guns away on puny charges like, you’re not smart enough, or well-trained enough, or safe enough person to own said arms. They can’t take them on the grounds that you aren’t responsible enough of a person to own the gun, or that you have not gone through the proper training (or regulating of) on gun safety.
Otherwise, why would they say at the same time the govt can regulate firearms as well as the govt cannot infringe on anyone’s right to own a firearm. Just do your research of several, and I mean several, usages of “well-regulated” during these times, you’ll find it has nothing at all to do with today’s definition of gov’t regulation.
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FORMER11BRAVO
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:47am
“Well regulated” also means “in common use”. In other words, they intended type, style and caliber to be the same as those in use by the Continental Army. Thus, modern arms are ABSOLUTELY the type specifically protected under the 2A – and the left damn-well knows it.
And it drives them crazy – literally. Listen to the way they scream about killing gun-owners and NRA members. They, themselves, are the ones who are completely unhinged and with no business owning firearms.
Of course, _we_ all know (modern) Liberalism is a mental disorder. Highly unstable, they display all the symptoms of severe narcisism and extreme paranoia; of the type likely to lead to violence. Liberals are dangers to themselves and those around them. Of that, there can be no doubt. God knows! They are certainly a very real/imminent danger to we, freedom-loving, self-reliant, patriotic American citizens.
Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.
JEFFERSONIAN1776
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 2:17pm
@Former11Bravo, thanks for your comment. Liberals are nothing more than communists who will exploit anything, and that means the exploitation of the Sandy Hook killings of children, to punish their political enemies. It is hard to believe that someone can despise a free society that much as to stoop to such lows.
Always, always, always remember my friend that Socialism is for the people, NOT the Socialist. Which is exactly today why we what you call “Champagne Socialists”–a term I heard some economist use one time that I thought very befitting.
WOLF
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:57pm
Whenever I am confronted by a leftist loonie telling me my guns should be taken away, I just tell them to go ahead and try right now. If they want to put their money where their mouth is, why should they wait?
No takers so far, which just goes to show they’re all ******* and need someone else to do the dirty work- and I remind them of that as well.
AZTHUNDER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:43pm
@Wolf
Good response !
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REGISTRATION WILL LEAD TO CONFISCATION
BRIAN LILLEY
Brian Lilley is host of Byline on Canada's Sun News Network.
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According to The Washington Post, the Obama administration is considering a “national database” of all firearms in the United States to “track the movement and sale of weapons.” If such a database comes to fruition the database will lead to confiscation.
Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.
As recently as last winter law abiding gun owners who had complied with the registry were having their rifles confiscated. In late 2011 hundreds if not thousands of people who had legally purchased the Armi Jager AP80, a .22 calibre variant of the AK47, were informed that their rifles had been deemed illegal and must be surrendered .
“You are required by law to return your firearm registration certificates, without delay, either by mail to the address shown in the top left corner of this page or in person to a peace officer or firearms officers. You have 30 days to deliver your firearms to a peace officer, firearms officer of Chief Firearms Officer or to otherwise lawfully dispose of them,” read the letter sent by the Canadian Firearms Centre.
The reason for the need to surrender what had been legal firearms was simply cosmetic, the AP 80 looked too similar to the AK47. There were no interchangeable parts between the two rifles, the rifles used vastly different ammunition, had vastly different uses but they looked the same.
What was more worrisome was that the decision to reclassify what for years had been a legal rifle was made by a bureaucrat not by elected officials. There was no debate, no vote just a decision by a bureaucrat who felt the AP80, legally owned for decades, was too dangerous to be privately owned by Canadians.
Of course confiscation of firearms could just be the start, confiscation of homes and cars could also come to the USA.
Former Marine Joshua Boston recently wrote a scathing response to Senator Diane Feinstein’s gun control proposals saying that he would not register his guns. That could cost him everything.
Bruce Montague, a gunsmith from Dryden, Ontario faces the possibility of having his home seized for failure to register his firearms. Montague’s decision not to register was purely political, he wanted to challenge the constitutionality of the gun registry. When his constitutional challenge failed and Montague was convicted the government of Ontario moved to seize his home under its proceeds of crime legislation. They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.
If the United States follows Canada’s lead in registering all guns into a national database then the confiscation of rifles and shotguns won’t be far behind.
Brian Lilley is the host of Byline on Sun News Network
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ECOMCON
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:40pm
Check this out. In Canada there’s even more ludicrous laws involving guns. One being that the gun must be locked up in a gun safe in one part of your house, as well as the ammunition for the gun being locked up in another section of the house. Kinda like, you ask the home invader to excuse you while you go and unlock the gun and go to another section of your house to unlock your ammo. if the home invaded is very kind and understanding, he’ll wait for you to lock and load and come back to shoot his sorry ass.
Currently there’s one victim of government stupidity in Canada still undergoing massive amounts of legal hassles. His house was being fire bombed with molotov cocktails, his dogs were being slaughtered, etc, by a gang of thugs. All this was actually captured on closed circuit TV. The home owner finally was able to fire one round into the ground and two more into his trees in order to scare off the attackers. The poor man was then charged under the various laws regarding brandishing firearm, unsafe use of a firearm, and discharge of a firearm, and a few other choice laws. he was finally able to prove he was under direct fear for his life, and he was found innocent,. That took over two years in court and God knows how much money of his went up in smoke. But he’s now being charged with unlawful storage of a weapon and unlawful storage of ammunition. Why? Because the prosecutors are speculating (which is enough in Canada) that he armed and fired in too of a short a tim
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R3DBULL4DD1KT
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:57am
to the naysayers posting “it’s over…” remember that with a complacent attitude like that, Obama got 4 more years in office, with that attitude makes me think you are trying to justify being too cowardly to stand behind your DUTY as an American Male to defend Liberty from enemies, foreign or domestic…
MILITIA is ALL able-bodied men between 18 and 55 years old…when Tyranny knocks, it is your duty to defend the Constitution of the US without question, without hesitation, without recourse…if you wont do it, then get out of my country–PERIOD
These people aren’t playing a game; They are building an Empire and lazy, soft-hearted, naive people unwilling to do whats needed are just in the way–it was proven in November!
If Obama signs that Executive Order that is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution, there should be 100,000+ Militia Men knocking on the White House door ready to begin a trial for Treason…simple as that
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KARENE999
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:36am
It is not just men, there will be plenty of women lined up beside you in this fight.
VOTEJOEL
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:26am
Hitler did that before he came for the Jews. We will fight back!
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LB
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:20am
and BO will come for the infidels
DJAY110
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:22pm
So tell me this I see allot of us saying I will not comply! What good will a gun be after they make it illegal to own if your seen with it you go to jail ? If they come for them and you stand up how many neighbors will stand with you when they kill you and take your guns your neighbors will run to turn theirs in! can we get organized enough to make a difference ?????
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M24
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:25am
You Don’t Know My Neighbours
ETERNAL
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:11am
It’s the we start to kill them and their families. We are not kidding.
THINK_4_YOURSELF
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:42am
DJay….that is exactly what will happen. I’ll even predict that the government will accomplish this without firing a shot. When the IRS freezes your bank account how easy is it to operate? When the power company turns off your electric (per government orders), no way to communicate. They will drop the legal hammer on you, crush you. Your average citizen will see the “example” the government made of you and turn in their guns. The machine is too big. We have already lost, we just have not realized it yet. The media will paint you as a right wing gun nut maniac for not complying. It’s over folks, games over. As for me? Moving out of harms way. Anyone wanna buy my arsonal? I won’t need 99% of them on an island.
SEANSCYTHE
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:47am
This is how it will play out, Man held up in his home he will be labeled a “Gun Nut” “Prepper” “Survivalist” ect and that he was hording mass ammo and guns. Neighbors that don’t even know him will tell the news that he was secluded and weird. He will be killed or arrested and forced to plea insanity so as to make others afraid to own bulk ammo and weapons.
1984 to where you are made to look insane and crazy or sick in the head. You could be perfectly sane and well within your legal rights but that’s not how the news will portray you.
What really happened will be that you were seen outside your home with your AR-15 by a anti-gun person driving by and he/she reports that you are waving your gun around at children. The police show up with guns drawn and one thing leads to another. Your arrested and guns/ammo are taken as “evidence” never to be returned. The news gets involved and post your name and address and how many guns and how much ammo you have all over the tv. You are demonized and made into a tea party nut job.
GURUMEDITATION
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:46pm
Duh!
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JBCHEESEHEAD
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:55pm
Perhaps it’s now time to swap your weapon with another weapon owner, and then report both as lost.
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MY WASR10 SAYS IM FREE
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:50pm
PVC pipe, endcaps, cosmline, desicant, and plumbers glue. That’s all I have to say folks.
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GEMINIMOON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:30pm
What an utter crock! The failed government can only lie, cheat and steal so much from it’s citizens, but to even contemplate doing something of this nature is ludicrous!
The day a person walks onto my property telling me I must surrender my guns will be the day the local coroner starts working some serious overtime!!!
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COUYON64
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:36pm
Never.
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MERCHANTSAILOR
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:25pm
Damn…. Somebody came right in my house and stole my guns!!
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502_EAGLE
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:47pm
I think Aliens are stealing them. Mine disappeared right off my wall.
BURNTEYE86
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:54am
I sold mine outside of a gun show. Didn’t get the guys name but he was between 5’3″ and 6’8″ about 135 lbs to 340 lbs. Couldn’t make out the color of hair as he was wearing a cap . Eyes neither, wearing sun glasses. Yepper, sold every one of em.
THE THIRD ARCHON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:24pm
“They were treating a paperwork criminal as if he were a drug lord, the kind of person the law was intended to prosecute.”
Maybe you shouldn’t have passed those fascist laws in your reactionary prohibitionist zeal to waste public resources fighting an futile war against chemical compounds then, eh? Really it’s not ALL your fault–it’s America’s, or I should say Nixon and Reagan mostly, for their championing this absurd and reactionary “war on drugs” (even George W. Bush’s “war on terror” was more justifiable–although of course, like the “war on drugs” it was ALSO a convenient excuse to push fascist laws). And they pressured/encouraged other American states (for the idiots in the audience, by “American states” in this context, I mean other nationstates in the Americas), but ESPECIALLY Mexico and Canada, to jump on board with the “war on drugs.” So you can’t be ENTIRELY blamed for a hysterically motivated mess OUR more demonic Presidents started.
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THE THIRD ARCHON
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:13pm
“Last year Canada ended its national long gun registry, a national database of every rifle and shotgun in the country that was supposed to help police track the movement of and sale of weapons. When it was introduced twenty years ago critics said the registration of firearms would eventually lead to confiscation, a criticism dismissed as ridiculous, yet that’s what happened and more right up until its dismantling.”
I didn’t know private gun ownership was even LEGAL in Canada…
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ALASKABOB
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:19pm
Rifle and shotguns … hunting stuff… are legal, but boy do they get really spooked with handguns at the government level. They are truly part of the Commonwealth and attempt to maintain order as per the United Kingdom…. They banned “assault rifles” after a guy selectively murdered young women at a college… what is not commonly noted is the gunman had the men in the classroom leave… they left and NONE of them tried to prevent the murder as they passed by the gunman out of the classroom. This is not a case of guns causing a terrible crime, but an efeminate culture that permits if not promotes a helpless/hapless set of societal rules. The sheeple of Canada have followed the path of worthlessness promoted by the Left.
STEELPANTHER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:42pm
I remember in the commentry, some small part of the Robocop film was being shot in Canada, I actually think it was the parking garage sence where they shoot Robo all to hell. Guess the officals they where dealing with freaked out over the concept of a fake gun being shot.(in the ’80′s even)
WOLF73B
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:00pm
I will not comply.
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MAGYAR
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:39pm
I’m with you!
WOLF73B
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:48pm
Then re-post it. That needs to be the rallying cry: I will not comply!
THEHALFRICAN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:08pm
He should not try coming to Oklahoma to do this, we still honor the 10th amendment and it will not work out very well for his team.
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COYOTE1953
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:59pm
The problem is, if law-abiding citizens turn in their guns, only non-law-abiding citizens will have guns.
What the hell is wrong with liberals?
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FREDERICK_DOUGLASS_REPUBLICAN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:23pm
Modern liberalism is a mental disorder. Logic is not comprehended by them at all. There is no tolerance or diversity in modern liberalism. Either you agree like a bobble head doll on in the back window on a bumpy road or you are labeled a HATER, a RACIST, and (worse offense of all for a libloon) MEAN!
And don’t forget it! Ha ha ha *
SGT ROCK
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:47am
Liberals have been undermined and tricked by a communist mindset, that is what is wrong with them.
ZORO51
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:44pm
IMPEACH OBAMA he3s ANTI GUN ANTI AMERICAN ANTI US CONSTITUTION ANTI AMERICAN OIL COAL ANTI FREEDOMS.. but PRO SOCIALIZM this IS not a dictator but a president.. HE MUST RERALIZE THIS… IMPEACH N THROW OUT OBAMA NOW save america form the RAPIST of our freedoms
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JERRYOD1627
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
It’s only a matter of time. We had our last free election in 2010. 2012 was fixed through corruption and deception and the election of 2014 has already been decided by obama et al, The dems will take back both houses and rule us colmpletely. A very short time after that the constitution will be shredded and obama will proclaim himself our ruler as his muslim brother did in Egypt. I believe that more than half the American people will roll over, turn in their weapons and surrender. The remainder who resist will be slaughtered!
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UECHI
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:15pm
And exactly why will the 50% that resist be be killed? We have been in Iraq and Afghanistan for over 10 years. Have we won?. Did we win in Vietnam? The reality is that confiscation will lead to a war they can’t win even if it takes a century they will lose.
SWALKER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:29pm
People keep speaking as if the 2ed amendment were a right, it is not a right nor are any other of the first ten amendments. They are a declaration that the Federal and State government can NOT infringe nor restrict any of our liberty’s declared in these ten amendments. It is a declaration that the People hold these to themselves and will never relinquish them to the Government, That is not negotiable. It is fact and that is why the Government wants to restrict them. Once we hand over any part of them we loose our ability to keep them to ourselves.
Never give an inch on these Liberties that the Government was notified they have no rule or control of.
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GUITAR MASTER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:25pm
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If they could jam Obamacare through the Congress and then through the Supreme Court a gun ban with registration will be an absolute cinch. This won’t play out very well in the end. Evil incarnate.
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BLASBERRYSTRAT
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:14pm
While I am by no means “glad” I had a recent heart attack and open heart surgery, it did result in my having to sell off most that I own because of no health insurance and prescriptions not being cheap for a heart patient. Kinda funny how a Pharmacy can sell ADD, Psycho, and pain meds under a $4.00 prescription plan, but pills to keep your heart going….”forget about it”. The weird part is all I did was mention to one Body Shop that I had my boat and guns for sale, and had people knocking on my door that night. It took over two weeks to sell the boat, but about 5 hours and all my guns & ammo was gone. ALL FOR MY ASKING PRICE. I sure as heck wasn’t going to ask for names and addresses when a guy was standing in front of me with a wad of $20′s. But I am glad they’re gone simply because I’m so tired of trying to fight for freedoms that were taken away the first pull of the CT trigger. I do hand it to the Libs though. They certainly paid off a lot of people to kill citizens, then finally figured out that 5 year old’s was the “winning case”.
I’m just glad to be out of it and now don’t have any “bad guns” for neighbors (and father) to brow beat me over. The only crap part is that the money I got will only get my prescriptions until the end of March, then it’s on to selling all my guitars I guess. Love that Obamacare when I’m a White Male = NO help or coverage. If I would have been a “single mother”, I might still have my guns = Free Gov. ride.
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KUMO
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:30am
It is frustrating to say the least that a system that was designed to help folks in your predicament has been abused for so long by able bodied individuals, that when folks really need the help it is not available to them. I would not depend on the Government for anything anymore.
Are you able to contact your church or perhaps a charity for assistance?
It is really unfortunate that this happened to you brother and I hope and will pray that you are able to regain your health quickly, but perhaps this is a sign that might lead you on a new path to do great things.
JESSIEH
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:54pm
Hide what you can, lock and load what you have.
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SEMPER4EVERSEMPER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:45pm
Remember once guns are outlawed, only police, military, criminals and Hollywood bad movie actors and their supporting elitist body gurards will have guns.
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INDYGUY
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:58am
This is where America is headed if Americans don’t refuse to register weapons…Confiscation is the goal…
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MOOSEBERRYINN
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:50am
This sort of registration was in force in the earlier days of Stalin’s Russia. The important thing to remember is it does nothing to prevent criminal activity.
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JEFFERSONIAN1776
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:41am
Remember that when the leftist loons try to throw the old “what don’t you understand about ‘well-regulated’” at you, that the term ‘well-regulated’ meant during the latter 18th century–’well-trained.’ In fact, the 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution would be hypocritical if it was saying that guns should be well-regulated by the state and then right in the same sentence saying that it is to “not be infringed.” When the Anti-Federalists like George Mason and Thomas Jefferson wanted all Natural Rights to be in writing–hence the Bill of Rights–they wanted the 2nd Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms to be protected in the Constitution and used the term “well-regulated” (i.e., “well-trained”) as something to not be infringed by gov’t. In other words, they didn’t want the gov’t to be able to take one’s guns away on puny charges like, you’re not smart enough, or well-trained enough, or safe enough person to own said arms. They can’t take them on the grounds that you aren’t responsible enough of a person to own the gun, or that you have not gone through the proper training (or regulating of) on gun safety.
Otherwise, why would they say at the same time the govt can regulate firearms as well as the govt cannot infringe on anyone’s right to own a firearm. Just do your research of several, and I mean several, usages of “well-regulated” during these times, you’ll find it has nothing at all to do with today’s definition of gov’t regulation.
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FORMER11BRAVO
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:47am
“Well regulated” also means “in common use”. In other words, they intended type, style and caliber to be the same as those in use by the Continental Army. Thus, modern arms are ABSOLUTELY the type specifically protected under the 2A – and the left damn-well knows it.
And it drives them crazy – literally. Listen to the way they scream about killing gun-owners and NRA members. They, themselves, are the ones who are completely unhinged and with no business owning firearms.
Of course, _we_ all know (modern) Liberalism is a mental disorder. Highly unstable, they display all the symptoms of severe narcisism and extreme paranoia; of the type likely to lead to violence. Liberals are dangers to themselves and those around them. Of that, there can be no doubt. God knows! They are certainly a very real/imminent danger to we, freedom-loving, self-reliant, patriotic American citizens.
Anyone who believes otherwise is delusional.
JEFFERSONIAN1776
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 2:17pm
@Former11Bravo, thanks for your comment. Liberals are nothing more than communists who will exploit anything, and that means the exploitation of the Sandy Hook killings of children, to punish their political enemies. It is hard to believe that someone can despise a free society that much as to stoop to such lows.
Always, always, always remember my friend that Socialism is for the people, NOT the Socialist. Which is exactly today why we what you call “Champagne Socialists”–a term I heard some economist use one time that I thought very befitting.
WOLF
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:57pm
Whenever I am confronted by a leftist loonie telling me my guns should be taken away, I just tell them to go ahead and try right now. If they want to put their money where their mouth is, why should they wait?
No takers so far, which just goes to show they’re all ******* and need someone else to do the dirty work- and I remind them of that as well.
AZTHUNDER
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 9:43pm
@Wolf
Good response !
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Myanmar was given a six in terms of political freedom and a five in the category of civil liberties.
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That is if you believe the Chinese government, which released data on the country’s Gini coefficient for the first time since at least 2000. The Gini coefficient is an internationally recognized measurement of income inequality in a country where zero equals perfect equality and a score of one means perfect inequality (one person holding all the wealth).
China’s Gini coefficient has hovered between 0.47-0.49 since 2003 Ma Jiantang, director of the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS), told a press conference in Beijing on Friday. The last time Beijing released Gini data was in 2000, when it said the number was at 0.412.
"A Gini coefficient between 0.47-0.49 shows that the gap in income distribution is relatively large,” Ma reflected.
By way of comparison, the United States, which has one of the highest levels of income inequality in the industrialized world, has been estimated by the OECD to be around .37 after taxes. Other organizations like the UN place the number higher at 0.4.
Breaking down the numbers further, Ma said there was a three-fold gap in wealth between rural and urban workers, and a four-fold gap between workers in the most and least lucrative industries, Reuters reported.
Many economists and international organizations believe anything above 0.4 risks creating social unrest.
It’s worth noting that Deng Xiaoping and his subordinates recognized that their policy of reform and opening up would create greater income inequality at least in the short-run. Zhao Ziyang, who as Premier from 1980-1987 was in charge of the daily implementation of China’s economic rebalancing, was a particularly strong advocate of the need to allow income for China’s coastal regions rise faster than inland provinces.
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Still, the new leadership’s efforts to rebalance the economy will be made all the more difficult by the declining size of the labor force. At the Friday press conference Ma said the labor force had declined in absolute terms by 3.45 million workers in 2012 relative to the year before. He cited the one-child policy as the cause of this drop and passionately advocated this be reversed.
China’s 5th generation leaders that took over in November are unlikely to initiate the kind of tough, visionary policies needed to navigate the country’s mounting difficulties, Freedom House suggested in its report this week. The annual survey said those hoping for “meaningful political reform were dealt a serious blow” when the CCP unveiled the fifth generation leadership, “whose members have generally built their careers on hardline policies.” They'll need to do better in economic reform.
Zachary Keck is assistant editor of The Diplomat. He is on Twitter: @ZacharyKeck.
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John Chan January 19, 2013 at 6:32 am
Regardless of what people say, China, to the Chinese, is the most happiest place on earth. It is a paradise in fact to our working classes. Soon China will be a superpower in a few years. The Westpac and its lackeys will be destroyed.
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Errol January 22, 2013 at 9:23 am
Except for your 'naked' officials of course. Staying in China isn't good for them. Also, the Chinese who have been leaving to migrate to other countries as well, for a variety of reasons. And don't forget the dissidents who aren't welcomed by the CPC.
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angelus512 January 22, 2013 at 11:41 am
@JC
Best post you ever made JC. Just displays in all its glory how much of a genuine nutter you are.
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Liang1a January 20, 2013 at 10:14 am
The solution for China's economic inequality is to phase out exports and FDI and develop the domestic economy based on the advancement of indigenous technologies, the urbanization of the rural residents and the energy self-sufficiency. Exports can only be maintained by cheap wages and cheap yuan. This means that if wages increased then exports will become too expensive to compete against other exporting countries with lower wages. Therefore, the only way to raise the wages is to shift to domestic development to produce goods and services for domestic consumption where increasingly higher productivity can be matched with increasingly higher wages; and wages are not constrained by cheap foreign wages but based on productivity only. And productivity can be increased by the advancement of indigenous technologies to make tools and machines used by Chinese workers increasingly more efficient. The urbanization of the rural residents will allow most of the Chinese to work in the urban areas to produce goods and services for the Chinese people to consume instead of being exported. The urban workers can also be paid higher wages commensurate with their higher productivity. The higher value of the RMB or the yuan will also keep the prices of goods cheaper and so increase the purchasing power of the Chinese people. As most of the rural residents are urbanized, the remaining farmers can have bigger plots of land to farm thus increasing their output and income. As the incomes of the farmers increase there will be less disparity between the urban and rural areas thus eliminating the inequality amongst the Chinese population. Also as the productivity of the Chinese people increases there will be less difference between the richest and the poorest.
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Dylan January 22, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Very well said. must have heard this in one of your classes in China! China isn't rich in natural resources it's dependent on energy and doesn't have the population to innovate. That would change if the country was open but to open a need in the political format is needed but who wants that? Definately not Beijing! So China is in a very difficult situation untill the regime doesn't change all China can do is export cheap goods to the rest of the world and with the profit move the national economy.
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jim1980 January 21, 2013 at 11:41 am
"By way of comparison, the United States, which has one of the highest levels of income inequality in the industrialized world, has been estimated by the OECD to be around .37 after taxes."
Why quote after tax figure instead of the real US GINI number which is .47, which is same as that of China. If you use after tax GINI for US, should you use the same for China. Talk about using fuzzy math to make argument better.
In fact, according to same calculation by CIA fact figure, US has same GINI as that of China.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2172.html
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david z. rich January 21, 2013 at 10:52 pm
histortically, the chinese have been a dynamic and innovative people–dictatorships shuch as in china today can nly cramp their innovativeness.
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Jack January 22, 2013 at 12:16 pm
China's Gini coefficient, a gauge of the wealth gap, reached 0.61 in 2010, much higher than the international warning line of 0.4.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/749103.shtml
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lamduckdiplomatjocket January 22, 2013 at 6:24 pm
Why does the Diplomat continue to write crappy articles about China? bunch of right wing hate mongering criminals. Either you smarten up or fire your current bogus journalist.
Or better, I think it time to look for a better site that is a little more serious.
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Kim January 22, 2013 at 11:55 pm
Don't like what you see here, you can leave and BTW, go back to your beloved China if you don't like the West too.
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dip-sh*t January 22, 2013 at 6:30 pm
The west has a much bigger inquality than China I don;t knwo what this writer is talking about.
In China we don't measure income inequality the same ways.
When it comes to writing about other countries, Diplomat usually misrepresent issues. It's best to write about something they know more about close to home.
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Kim January 22, 2013 at 11:58 pm
you dip-sh*t don't like what you see here, you can leave and BTW, go back to your beloved China if you don't like the West too. In China, you can dip-sh*t everywhere, no problem.
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C C P supporter January 23, 2013 at 3:54 am
This is another article from the west to demonise China. Here are the undispute facts from China today:
1) All CCP and their families members are under strict Court order to drink import bottle watter to leave all CHLORIDE treated tap water for our dear peasants who unable to purchase toothpaste due to the secret CIA on going blockage against China.
2) All CCP and their families members are order to stockup import baby milk to free up local made Melamine Milk which contain HIGH PROTEIN for our dear peasant babies.
3) Our Dear former President Hu Jintao earned a modest US $10,633 per year, it means $866 per month, $220 per week and $44.30 per day. He and his wife made twice a day trip to the local Noodle Bar, Bejing to meet and eat with everyday peoples. He even bought us a cup of tea time after time from his limited retirement bugget. Any fabrication to his family fortune of 1.67 Billion Pounds is baseless. He made it clear to all local people that he had nothing to do with his family fortunes. They had accumulate those fortune from the "Ancient time" it is purely based on luck, friends helping friends and hard work.
4) Bejing air was polutted by millions of luxury /powerful V8 and V12 Japanese/Western cars driving around. We areenforcing all CCP member to drive Local made 2014 Chery which run on Bejing's tap water to produce zero toxic gases.
Remember our great Mao Zit Dong slogan ? "Without the Communist Party, There will be no Melamine Milk for our Infants"
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angelus512 January 24, 2013 at 1:01 pm
Bravo :-) Loved the sarcasm big time.
Thumbs up
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Phunsukh Wangdu January 24, 2013 at 2:17 am
CCP China's intention to the world. It's intention is to dominate Asia with might and fear. Suppress trade and freedom of navigation so that it can corner the whole region and be forced to trade with CCP China. Intimidate and coerce small nations into giving up it's natural resources and territory. Create a communist Empire so that Pultibro leaders will remain in power for years to come. create a Communist Dynasty that will last a thousand years, project to the world that China is a Draconian world power.. I trust the Chinese or Chinese people i am able to trade with them, what I don't trust are your communist leaders and hawkish warlords.
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